Welcome, everybody, to OuiTalkRaw on rBeatz.com. I’m Jennifer Busco, intuitive energy healer, and I’m here today with a dear friend, Brent Asseff. Hi, Brent. How are you?
Hey, Jennifer, how are you?
I’m doing well. What are we going to talk about today? All sorts of things.
We’re gonna talk about mediumship.
Mediumship.
And how to connect and to talk with our ancestors and anything that’s related to that topic.
Yes, and how that can incorporate into our human existence and our nine to five jobs and doing human things.
Right, ’cause no matter what you do in the spirit work, you have to live your everyday life and you can’t have a normal career. You can have a family and still keep one foot in a normal life and one foot in the spiritual realm.
And I love that idea of people think that mediumship and spirituality and healing or so, as I say, woo -woo, but I think that this work can directly relate to your regular human everyday life. And I think that’s what we’re gonna talk about today, how those two things blend together.
Yeah, I think there are a lot of stereotypes about people who do spiritual work, and I certainly, in doing this work, had to force me to change how I see myself and how I define myself, and it’s, in turn, to change how I see people who could do this work.
I love that. Well, let’s start by talking about your day job. Talk about where you came from before you started to step into these woo woo roles that we both have.
So, a little more than 15 years ago, I graduated from law school, and I took the bar, passed the bar, and practiced law for a number of years. and in 2017 I was appointed as an administrative law judge, which is a position I still hold. So I have very much been in a buttoned -up, suit -and -tie professional job, one that doesn’t really interact with the spirit world, so that that’s what I have been doing and what I’m still doing currently.
So you wear a robe but not in like a monk or a spiritual kind of way?
That’s true, it’s a polyester cheap black… robe, it doesn’t breathe, but it does the part.
Okay, so you have a very serious day job, and you also are opening up, stepping into, and have awakened to these gifts of being a medium, of being a healer, so let’s talk about how that transitioned.
I mean, it was about 20 years ago, a dear friend of mine told me in a moment of vulnerability that she can communicate with the dead. That she can also read the thoughts of other humans and it was 15 years later in 2019, that I witnessed her doing that. There’s a switch flipped and suddenly I found myself opened up to other abilities.
So you witnessed somebody giving like a medium ship reading?
It was a friend, Jessica. We were sitting next to one another and there was a group of people down the table. We could not hear their conversation. And Jessica turned to me and said, “You know, you can buy those at Harbor Freight for $40.” And I just looked at her because it was a total non sequitur. It didn’t make any sense. And then two beats later someone in that other group yelled,
“You know, you can buy those at Harbor Freight for $40.” And I just looked at her and she said, “That’s what I told you I could do 15 years ago.”
So that’s like psychic energy sort of. right? I mean, that’s, I guess, generally speaking, how would we categorize that?
Yes.
Reading somebody else’s thoughts, feeling their energy.
Right, I think this is a good chance to differentiate between psychic versus medium.
Yes. Well, maybe back up and tell us what mediumship is.
So mediumship is using like extrasensory perception to mediate communication between deceased humans and people who still live on this earth. So basically you allow spirits of deceased people to communicate to people who are still left on earth.
Got it. Great definition. I like the way you said that.
I’ve had to look it up recently, so it’s somewhat fresh in my mind.
And you sort of have to go up and they have to come down is what I feel and what I’ve been told, right? Like you kind of have to go up, vibrate higher, faster, up, and then they kind of have to come down ’cause usually people that are– on the other side are vibrating much higher, they’re much lighter energy than our dense human bodies.
It is.
Filled with fear. That a lot of us have.
There’s less fear up there.
Less fear, yes.
Definitely less fear up there. But yeah, part of my technique is to ground here on earth but also connect to the spirit realm. So I do have like one foot in one realm and one foot in another. And it is a careful balancing act to stay conscious of who you’re working with in front of you here on earth, while still receiving messages and communicating with spirits.
Such a great point. As a healer, same thing. So before every session, I ground and get in my body to prepare almost to go up, if that makes sense, to receive messages. So there is that crazy balance that you have to have of embodying your body, clearing your energy, but then also being able to go up at the same time.
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, these bodies are our vessels for any sort of extrasensory information. which could be healing energy. It could be intuiting about things going on with someone or with me connecting with deceased spirits. You still, it all, filters through our bodies. And so we have to make sure that we’re grounded.
Yes, and clear. Because sometimes things can be filtered through our own egos or our own belief systems. And that’s not really coming from a loving place to the recipient.
That’s exactly right. When I work, I always set the intention. to remain clear of any negative triggers or any negativity that I’m bringing into the session.
Yes.
And it’s very important to put the focus on the person you’re working with and on the spirits that are coming through.
I always say please allow any energy that’s moving or any wisdom that’s coming through to be coming from that source energy. That way you’re sort of setting that boundary from any darkness or any energies around you that might not have the highest good in mind, that’s what I say, yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
I think there’s so many similarities between what you do and what I do.
Yes, and I know you have some mediumship.
It’s channeling, right? I do, yes. I mean, people, THEY, on the other side, show up in sessions sometimes, but it’s just like, I’m feeling grandma energy, she’s wearing this, and this is happening, and she’s sewing something, so it’s very just, they kind of flow in and flow out, so I don’t have that beautiful sort of, like, ritualistic thing that you do where you ground and you open up and doing all that stuff, but they definitely they sort of knock on the door in session sometimes.
Yeah, I’m sure some of them may want to come through and actually do a full-on communication or provide guidance but I’m sure some of them also kind of clue you into things that are going on with your client and so it could be multifaceted, what a connection with the spirit can bring to your work or to my work as well.
I think that’s a great way to step into the next sort of portion of this conversation. talking about why, why do you connect to others? And I know a lot of healers and a lot of mediums that quite honestly, they get annoyed when the client’s like, “well, what color car did my grandma have?” you know, and they’re just trying to get the proof that the medium is quote unquote legit. And I think that it’s really important to talk about like that true intention of why you are, why you are connecting with those on the other side.
Yes, and I can speak to this both from someone who’s benefited from receiving mediumship readings and energy healing as well. And also I can speak to how I’ve seen it help people that I’ve done readings for. You know, I mentioned it was 2019 that I witnessed my friend’s psychic gift. It was in 2021 that I was a client of a woman who went on to become my mentor and teacher. And I was her energy healing client. Then she invited me after that to start taking classes. So I started out as someone who received healing and then the classes where I learned mediumship and other intuitive techniques. I received many readings. Those have led to incredible discoveries in messages from my own deceased ancestors. It’s been such a joyous experience to have. Now I know firsthand what it can bring to someone else. So when I work with someone, I recall that feeling that it brings me. I try then to provide that same experience to the people who’ve come to me to work.
I love that. I think for anybody watching, if you’re drawn to this conversation, or if you’re drawn to, hmm, “what would a mediumship reading or a healing session be like?” A lot of times, that person has gifts as well. You sort of start as being the recipient, and then you’re like, “ooh, I wanna do that.” It’s just sort of an energetic pull that I think a lot of people feel. Especially where we are as a globe right now, I think there’s a need for a lot of light workers, healers, to kind of keep that darkness that’s happening. Keep it up, keep it light.
Yeah, I had a client recently who seemed like didn’t have any experience doing spiritual work and it was only after our session that it became clear that she was much more tuned in to spiritual work and has now become somewhat of a mentee, where I’m starting to teach her techniques and teach her certain things. I think people who have these abilities are definitely drawn to being clients of these services.
Talk about the school that you’re in.
So , I’ve been taking classes. There’s this college called Arthur Findlay College. It’s in England. There’s this spiritualist tradition that began in the 19th century, the 1800s in the United States, where people started showing gifts as mediums, and it created this religious institution that spread to England. England, Australia, other English -speaking countries and non -English -speaking countries as well. There’s this college that was founded in the early 20th century in England and because of COVID they opened up zoom classes. It used to be a residential college. You’d go for a week and learn under their tutors and their teachers, but now people like me have access to these classes from these teachers in England and I’ve met other folks who do this and I connect with them outside of class. It’s really grown not only like a client base, but also other mentors, other friends in this community.
And it’s really helped your gifts, and your talents, and your skill set, and how this energy works.
Absolutely, I mean, as I’m sure you can attest, you know, there are a lot of doubts as to whether or not you can actually do this, and having all of those opportunities to practice with other people who are learning as well.
Yes, and like minds
Yes, and so when you do it, a reading and you’re like, “ yes, that was my father that you connected with, and here’s why I know it was for sure my father.” That instills so much confidence and it’s about sitting in the power. That’s language they use at Arthur Findlay is sitting in the power.
I love that you said that because in my mind, we’re so connected. In my mind, I was just thinking that my teacher always says mediumship is a power. Like when you wanna connect to the other side, it is a power. Whereas healing and energy healing, it’s a little bit of a softer energy, but there’s this commanding that has to happen when you want to connect with the other side which I think is interesting. There’s more of almost like a masculine energy to mediumship than the work maybe I do.
Which is funny because I’m almost usually the only man in these classes so there may be a but we all you know and embody both masculine and feminine energies but you’re right. Healing energy can be more passive it can be more active as well but mediumship like it’s difficult just to stay passive. You have to really engage with that.
So how does all of this, all this, my word, woo woo conversation affect your day job when you’re wearing that robe?
So I will couch this in terms, I’ve always considered myself to be a kind and patient person who listens, but the level of compassion that I have for everyone that I meet, the amount of love that I feel towards other people, my ability to listen, and understand at a deeper, more intuitive level has increased because I do this work. Now as a judge, I only can rely upon evidence in what’s in the record.
So the exact opposite of what you’re doing.
Yeah, so I can’t well say, you know, I’m intuitive about this person, this is why I’m making the decision.
Do you feel that creep in sometimes though? Like, oh, I can feel that this is happening or?
Absolutely, absolutely and it helps, but I think just, I do the type of work where you need to listen to people. Whether the result is in their favor or not. There’s value in being a person who listens to their story and they feel understood.
That’s brilliant, yes.
And I think it’s just the presence that I can bring into my courtroom has been enhanced by this work. And it’s just a more welcoming environment that I can create and foster in my day job.
That’s amazing, wow. So going back a little bit to the intention behind the why. So if somebody’s booking a session with you, in your words, what is the reason, the purpose, other than proving that there is, you know, the other side?
Right, so I think there are two benefits, and there actually have been academic research on this that I’ve been looking into in the past several weeks about how people do experience spontaneous healing. Just from knowing that someone they loved who passed is still somehow with them. It’s instantaneous and then above and beyond the healing you can receive from knowing someone you loved who passed is still with you, they can provide guidance. They often come through because they have messages and those messages are pertinent to your life situation.
For them to evolve or heal or come for it, right? It’s not just proof that the grandma had the right red Toyota. Whatever it is to prove that.
That evidence, and we can talk about that a little later, like what the evidence looks like and how you know you are truly connecting with the spirit and known to your client, but they have messages. There’s a reason they’re there and you can ask questions once we both are confident that we are connected to the same spirit, you can ask questions of them. And the answers aren’t necessarily straightforward. it’s very symbolic, it’s a lot of interpretation, but I encourage my clients to follow up with me days, weeks, months, as time goes on and certain meanings are more clear.
Oh, like, oh, that’s what the horse meant that she was holding and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, interesting, yes.
Absolutely, absolutely.
I also think it brings like a sort of magical aspect to life, like knowing that there’s something else out there, like it’s not just this body. The other day I said YOLO to my friend. I’m like, YOLO, let’s do it. And I’m like, actually, I don’t believe that. I believe we have more than one life. She’s like, Jenny, “it just means to just enjoy life.” But I really don’t believe in just one life. I have our mutual friend, Dana Childs, one of my teachers, I went on a workshop with her once and we stayed in an old hotel. She was like, Jennifer, we were in the same hotel, different beds. And she was like, “I just want to let you know that I attract ghost, dead people all the time.” She’s like– “you may wake up with someone tickling your feet. You may wake up with something happening. I just wanna let you know now before we go to bed,” I’m like, seriously?
Now you tell me.
And at three in the morning, I woke up to the comforter in the hotel room. I mean, doing this. Like someone was like shaking the comforter. And that gives me the chills just saying it because like at that moment, I was for sure that this is years ago, but I was for sure that there is, you know, things on the other side. other side, people on the other side, spirits on the other side, and it was a magical moment in that way, just to be introduced to it.
Absolutely, and I did not come into this like, I was adjacent to this type of work until 2019 or 2020. I didn’t believe in an afterlife. I didn’t believe even that we had souls necessarily. That it was just our skin and bones and we die and that’s it. But now I have 100 % certainty that we do have souls and that they survive our bodily death and we can still interact with the spirits of those who used to be incarnated here on earth.
100 % and I think it’s important to sort of note to anybody watching that this is not affiliated with any specific religion or group, it’s just we are humans, we leave this body, we go somewhere else to a different dimension and you have the gift of connecting with that.
Exactly, I think it’s something that’s available to all humans, we are all the same species and you’ll see overlap and commonalities among world religions, I think it all started from people having connection and contact with the spirit world and somehow they become institutionalized and they change, but at the core there are so many commonalities all around the world of these traditions of being able to have contact with spirits.
Hmm, so do you have any interesting stories that you can share with us? Like a surprising story of something that in a session happened with a client or someone?
So I think this is a really good example of how it works, but also it can tell you how beneficial it is. So it was during a class at the Arthur Finley College, I was paired up with a woman who lives in New Mexico. Again, I don’t know this person, she doesn’t know me. It’s a total stranger and we’re paired off in a Zoom breakout room. It was my turn to do a reading for her and I saw a man appear and typically I’ll see first the spirit and I can physically describe how they look.
Clothing, everything, you see a human form?
I see a human form, I describe facial features, body type, clothing.
Is it how old they were when they passed or can it depend?
Sometimes, but sometimes they wanna be seen at a younger time when they thought they looked better. So that’s not necessarily a good indicator of how old they were when they died, but it can be. I said describe body language personality. That’s kinda how I start. And then I asked this woman, does that sound familiar to anyone you know who has passed? And she said, “yes, I do, but give me more.” And so I went on to describe even more things about him. I think probably, it started out with appearance and then I went into body language and personality. And I said, okay, how about now? She said “same person but this person’s very important to me and I have to be certain, give me more. So then one thing I do, I’ll ask then the spirit, “show me an object of significance.” So an object of significance could be an actual real world item that is known to the family or known to the client that they possess.
A ceramic elephant that was on the shelf.
Exactly. In this case, the spirit held up an airplane. It was like a wooden airplane. He held it in his hands. I told that to the client and she started crying. she said, “That’s my father. He was a mechanic for American Airlines for 40 years.”
So now she knows that’s him.
So now she knows that’s him. Uncontrovertibly, that’s her father who she’s been wanting to connect with. And I have chills now recounting that because it’s incredibly powerful to connect in that way and to witness the change and demeanor of the person you’re working with. And then I started bringing through messages.
And then she was able to receive, because she knew that was him.
And she’s like, this is exactly how he would have spoken to me. You know, and that’s how she knew. And we went back for the breakout and she was crying for 30 minutes. Like you can see her on the screen, it just stuck with her. And so that was one of the more powerful readings that I can remember. And it’s experiences like that that keep me going and wanting to do this for as long as I can.
And I think it’s all about trusting in your own gifts as a healer, as a medium too, right? You have to trust that the messages that you are getting, the visuals that you are receiving are something coming from that and enough to share.
Yes, and it’s important to know that the medium receives those messages without knowing anything from the start.
Right, they might not make sense to you, the conversation that happens to me all the time in sessions. I’m like, I’m seeing cotton candy. And the client was like, well, my dad works with insulation. And my spirit knew I wouldn’t know what insulation energy was coming in. My spirit brought me cotton candy.
You have a sweet tooth.
But it looks just like insulation in a house. And so that was, that like brought her to tears that her dad was there.
Yes, that’s a perfect example.
But cotton candy felt so awkward to say in the conversation.
Yes. That’s one of the situations where maybe weeks later, or maybe it wasn’t apparent to her, but then she had time to think about it and like, “oh, of course, of course that was actually insulation.” And we’re human and we want to interpret the meaning of the symbols and the visions we have, but that’s an example of why we should just deliver it, the evidence as we receive it and let the client interpret it as best they can.
And even simplistically speaking, a lot of times intuitive hits, intuition, doesn’t make sense. Like, a lot of things. don’t logically make sense coming from this world.
Yeah, absolutely. And so, you know, I talked before about how it normally starts with a visual that’s clairvoyance. I see the person, I see the spirit, and then once I’m confident that I’ve connected to someone known to my client, then it’s clear cognizance, it’s sudden knowing, and so that’s that intuition.That the messages come through, or suddenly I am aware of some information, I’ve blurted out. and they’re like, yes, that’s true, I never wanted to wear a dress when I was a child. That’s just more evidence.
Yeah, there’s so many ways you can hear things, you can see things, you can feel things. There’s so many ways.
Taste, smell, yes. Things that I don’t, that’s not something that I do currently, but yes, there’s so many other ways of interpreting and receiving information that could be good for your client to know.
And do you believe that we all have these gifts? and these capabilities?
I think we do.
I do as well.
I think we do. I think it comes easier to some than it does to others. Some have to work for it. Some are tortured. The friend, who I mentioned, who made the Harbor Freight comment that kind of cracked me open, she’s been tortured throughout life where she can’t keep spirits out.
Tortured in what way?
As in she can just be doing her everyday life and she can hear the thought of the person sitting across from me.
Like boundaries on my mind? Like she can’t turn it off?
Whereas I feel fortunate in the fact that I have to really be present and grounded and meditate and seek out that contact. Sitting here today, I’m not aware of any spirits floating around, and so it helps me to direct those energies and that attention. So yes, there are some differences in natural gifts, but I think anyone who really studies this and feels into it can.
I agree and I think it comes easy to older souls. Like, if you’re an older soul and you’ve had many many many lives, you’re more open to this work. You’re more drawn to it, thus it’s easier for you to step into those gifts and talents and skill sets.
Right, and I guess by older soul, you mean like someone who’s had a life and they passed million lives?
Yes, and many lives multiple lives I think you’ve been killed you’ve been murdered, you’ve been the murderer, you’ve been the baby, and the husband, you’ve been the wife, right?
In the more times you’ve transitioned from incarnated life to spirit life, makes it easier when you are incarnated, I think, to communicate back and forth. I think that’s just my–
Agreed, and those are just our opinions. If anybody watching believes in one life, that’s totally fine too. These are just our opinions. Well, we’re gonna go ahead and take a break, so stay tuned after this message for questions from the audience.
Welcome back everybody to Oui Talk Raw! So, I am here with Brent Asseff. We were having a really enlightening conversation on mediumship in the real world and how these two can blend together. So we are taking questions from the audience. The first question, are you ready for it, Brent?
I’m all set.
If I want to call on a loved one, only because I miss them on a holiday, does that qualify me to see you?
Absolutely, there can be any reason you want to connect with someone is a valid reason. Before I agree to work with someone, I ask them, what is it? Your intention? What are you hoping to get out of this? Sometimes they’re like, I just wanna see who comes through. Others will say there’s a specific person I want to connect with. I will always say, please don’t tell me anything about them.
So in this instance, if this person wants to work, they can, you can just contact me and say, hey, there’s someone I really miss. I would be joyful if they came through. I could agree to work with that someone.
Again, I won’t wanna know anything about that person because you wanna get them confident. confidence that it’s, I’m connecting through spirit and not because I’ve been told information.
You’re not Googling them.
Exactly.
But you do also, you tune into before the session to see if you actually can connect to that person, right? To make sure that you’re efficient with the client.
Yes, just to briefly describe my process, I’ll usually meditate the day before a session and I’ll meet ancestors they’ll come through. I had a session just last week. A man and a woman came through. When I did the live session the next day, it turned out it was this client’s grandmother or grandfather. These were the two she was hoping to connect with. She was wearing her grandmother’s jewelry and she had her father’s veterans hat from his Korean War service.
Wow.
And so she didn’t tell me who she wanted to connect with but they just naturally came through the day before. That can be how it works. So, the client can set that intention. The client can communicate and say, “Please, Grandma, grandfather.” grandfather, whoever it may be, I would love for you to come through. And that can help.
So it’s almost prepping, they’re calling upon them before you are like, “hey, someone’s gonna be reaching out to you, his name’s Brent from Down on Earth.”
Absolutely.
I love it. Okay, the second question from our audience. My family member was tragically killed in a car accident by a drunk driver. I’ve had no closure. Can I contact you?
You can, you can contact me. And already, this is more information than I would want to have. And so, because sometimes as a medium, you can intuit cause of death, age of death, and that again can be confidence that you have connected to the person. And so, but still, you can try, I can try to come through, see who comes through, describe the person that I see, and then you can tell me, yes, this is the person that died in the accident. So that is not too much information for me to know. I could, work with you potentially. There’s never a guarantee that who you want to come through will come through.
Right. And I’ve been told that sometimes they’re just busy. I mean, there’s a school up there as well. I mean, souls and spirits are revolving in their own non -human way in whatever you wanna call it, heaven up there. And I’ve had healers be like, they’re just busy right now. Oh, they can’t come. They can’t come to the phone right now.
And if it’s a recent passing, sometimes it takes them time to be available.
Which the whole thing about time is so hard to say, or like some people say it takes six months for them to be able to contact for six weeks and to– I mean, the whole, the timing thing I think is there’s so much gray there. You never know how long things take in the other side.
That’s exactly right.
We made up time. Humans made up time.
Oh yeah, well they live outside of time.
Right.
The souls do. I mean, we experienced time in our own special way.
But we have to. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be here today with me at this time. All right, third question here. I was orphaned at two. I was told my mother was killed in tragedy while living with me in the streets. I was an orphan. Can you channel my mother even though I don’t know who she is? Okay, so if someone doesn’t know who they’re calling upon.
It’s interesting because I have had clients and people I’ve worked with in the past who were adopted. I’ve connected with someone, and they’re like, yes, that was my biological mother or biological father. –
And they didn’t know him.
Yeah, they may know just a little bit of information that will connect them to it. Also, I’ve connected with relatives that they’re in their adopted family. So you don’t have to be blood related to someone for them to come through. I have basically connected with the father of someone’s adoptive father. And so you don’t have to have a blood connection, but it is possible to connect with someone. Now, it might be difficult for this person to be confident that who I’m connected with is indeed their biological father.
‘Cause how would they know if they don’t know anything about her?
Exactly, so it makes it more difficult, but there still can be value people. I guarantee you some spirit or spirits will come through with a message that could be beneficial.
Got it.
I feel like, you know, even if you, there’s one person you wanna connect with and there’s not a guarantee you will, there still can be value in working with a medium ’cause you never know what may come through.
Yes, and I think the whole, the whole sort of concept of DNA is also very human. You know, the family unit that you’re in, but there are so many other ways to have like these soul connections, adopted, not adoptive, best friends, romantic partners that you’re connected to in some way shape or form. There’s an energetic connection. It seems like someone that you can reach out to you on the other side.
Yeah, absolutely anyone that we spend time with like you and you and me right now Everyone else in this room, and we will have some sort of energetic, you know fingerprint left on one another. That could increase the chances of us, you know encountering one another at another time or somehow being connected in spirit.
So is there anything that you don’t do like self crime? finding somebody, or what is there any sort of place that you don’t go, any avenue that you don’t go down, will clients reach out?
There are avenues I don’t go down just because I’ve never had the opportunity to. I do have my dad’s first cousin has worked with law enforcement before to help solve crimes and apparently has been successful. That’s not something I currently feel confident about because I really do just see who comes through organically and I bring in evidence from those folks, so I probably would not agree to do something like that currently but who knows in the future.
And it seems like there’s so much sort of at risk to you like there’s you know around that person that’s seeking that answer closure who did it where they go what happened?
Exactly.
Heavy, it feels heavy almost.
It does. Someone’s inquired about can you tell me exactly what happened in the death of this beloved person and I’m like I can’t, I don’t feel good about it.
There’s a lot of fear there. And I think when you want to connect to the other side, you want to connect from a loving place. And in my sessions, I’m like, that’s what I do. I try to go up and have everything come through that loving source. And I think if someone’s intention is coming from that fear -based, happy place, but understandably, I get it. If you have these questions, but it does seem like there might be a little incongruency there with the intention in that way.
Yes, and that’s why I always want to have a conversation before I agree to work with someone so I can be certain that there’s some help I can provide for them.
Awesome, and so you do remote sessions over Zoom, do you do in person as well? Are you all remote?
I do some in person, mostly remote. I have found this actually works better.
I agree.
Remote, because when you’re in the room with someone–
There’s less judgement, there’s less, yeah, you can’t make up any stories.
Right, their smell, their body language, their appearance, their environment.
How put together they are, yes.
There’s so many other information streams.
100%.
When you’re on Zoom, you are looking at that person’s eyes and you are there for a specific purpose in the messages.
I agree, I just love when sessions get booked and I’m like, oh, where are you coming from? They’re like, London, Washington, D .C. I’ve never seen you in my life. And those are the sessions that are just really easy versus someone that’s sitting across from me that I know.
And I feel like that’d be more challenging for you doing healing work. It’s, It’s probably the people would believe less that you’re healing them. Like how can you heal me from across the world?
I know, but it’s crazy. It works.
But it does open it absolutely.
It’s all about, I mean, energy is all about intention, which is really, I think, the moral of this conversation for anybody watching. Like if you’re feeling pulled to this and you have an intention that you’re wanting or that you’re seeking, that it’s possible.
Absolutely.
It’s possible to connect to the other side. It’s possible to heal. It’s possible to open up to spiritual and healing gifts. If you’re feeling that pull.
Right, and I think one piece of advice I would give, and this just happened to be how it worked for me, is I worked for this healer that I mentioned in 2021. I didn’t have anything specific that I wanted healed. I just wanted to see what happened. And I was being pulled to her for a reason, apparently, because she then became my mentor and teacher and friend. And so if you have any inclination, I think, finding a healer, finding a medium, whatever you feel drawn to, just work with one of them. And you never know what that will light within you.
And one thing can be a gateway. Maybe you’re drawn to acupuncture because that moves energy. Then the acupuncturist refers you to something else. Which, by the way, I see angel energy, which is white sparks and I see them all around you. I’m definitely seeing you brought some like angel energy.
I’ll take that as a compliment compliment. Although I have no stick. I did have an aura photograph taken in Sedona, Arizona.
Interesting.
In January, and there were some white lights that the interpreters said, “Oh yeah, those are the spirits floating up there.”
Yeah, I definitely see them around you today.
That’s funny.
Okay, so your advice would be, would you say your advice would be?
About if you have any inclination gifts, I would say find someone to work with. There are classes out there. There’s a website that’s called Udemy.
Yes, the school you can take classes and workshop.
Yeah, so many things. You can learn accounting, you can learn landscaping, and you can learn mediumship, you can learn healing. It’s a good introduction to kind of get some basic information and then those teachers make themselves available and you can contact them. Hey, do you have any live classes? Do you have any mentorship opportunities? Because I’ve done group classes, I’ve done mentorships, I’ve done in -person classes. Like you just, the more educational possibilities you can avail yourself of, the better.
And I know this is kind of cheesy to say, but social media is a great tool because you can see somebody’s presence and you can hear what they’re saying, you know, just put hashtag, medium in your TikToks and see where it rolls up and see that person that you align with, ’cause you really wanna align with someone’s work and there’s so many ways to teach this, right? There’s so many different avenues, you can go with all of this work, so I think it’s about the person that’s doing that research to really tune into their own body and senses, like, “oh, I really feel like I align with what that person’s saying,” and then go down that path, reach out to ’em, DM ’em, take their classes, workshops, book a session.
Yeah, my mentor, that’s how I found her. It was a friend who had worked with her, I looked her up on Instagram, I liked kind of the feel of her account, I followed her. and I was her 222nd like.
So people who are into repeating numbers are like, okay, there’s something there. Then I reached out and here I am sitting across this table today, which I never would have guessed would happen three years later.
So how long is a session? Do you have a time limit?
Yeah, so I usually, usually 60 minutes to 75 minutes is how long they usually last.
Since there’s no such thing as time, how can you say how– long it’s gonna take to get to the–
But my body does get tired, saddling that energy out.
Do you get tired, do you?
Oh, I do. But it’s a good tired. It really is, it can be draining, but it’s so rewarding to do that.
I agree.
‘Cause as you know, the healer also receives the healing energy too. You’re giving healing energy to your clients, but you’re also receiving healing ’cause you’re channeling it. And you feel the same about mediumship.
I definitely get energized after, but it’s like a pleasant exhaustion at the same time. My vibration gets so high when I do this work. So it’s crazy to say it helps me as well.
Yeah, absolutely.
I finish a session, I’m like, “Oh, this is who I really am.” Oh gosh, okay, this is who I really am. Just connected, bright and light and happy.
You wanna feel it all the time. And then it’s like when your kids break something and you’re like, “Oh wait, where’s that feeling again?”
I remember after a session. like a couple weeks ago I texted my boyfriend and I was like, “Remind me when I’m stressing out about dumb, you know what, that this is who I really am. I need to remember that this is who I really am, not that fear -based person that can get stressed out and single mom stuff and all that stuff.” You have to remember who you are. Okay, we have another question. Are you ready for it?
Absolutely.
This is not my wheelhouse. Do you believe in numerology and how does it work?
So I have never studied numerology, but I will, so I had a reading. I mentioned Sedona, Arizona a moment ago. I first went there and last went there 20 years ago and I saw this guy, he’s now passed on, his name was Ray and his practice was Ray of Sedona. I was a total skeptic and I just had no openness whatsoever to his services, but my girlfriend at the time wanted to get a reading as we were passing through town. His reading, which he, audio recorded, I still have the cassette tape of the session, he used numerology as how he kicked it off. He did tarot as well, he did psychic and tuning, but the numerology kicked it off. And so I do, I mean, what he said from it resonates with me to this day. And even to that skeptic 20 years ago, I don’t know how it works. I don’t know the traditions that underlie it.
I don’t either.
But I’m open to so many more things than I ever would have thought. Open because of my experiences with mediumship and spiritual practices.
And maybe that person that’s asking, maybe that’s an avenue that they should go down. So I’m sort of like a universal gypsy. I just go with the flow in life. So I don’t study numerology, but if I’m taking a walk or going on a run and I just see a number on a mailbox, I just know that that number is for me, if that makes sense. So I’ll be going for a run and I’ll pass 40 million houses, but that one house I’ll pass, I’ll just say 334 on the mailbox. I’ll just feel drawn to it, and I just Google, like, spiritual meaning of 334, and they’ll be like, “your angels are saying you’re in the right path.” And I’m like, “okay, cool, my day just got better.” You know, even with seeing animals, right? Like, you’ll be driving, you’ll see three crows, your car stops, and there’s three crows. You can Google “crow”, you can Google the number three, whatever you’re feeling, but it’s really, again, up to that person, the recipient, to be like, that’s a message from the universe. So I’m always looking for messages from the universe and for crutches, whether it’s tarot cards, animals, random conversations at Starbucks, that can give you a message from something bigger.
I’m really glad you mentioned that ’cause when I do my prep work the day ahead of time and I enter someone’s space, I see ancestors, but I also see animals. And so I will look up the meaning ’cause I am not an expert on the meaning of certain animals. But I will look it up, but I won’t invite the client. Look it up yourself. You never know what’s going to resonate with you.
‘Cause there’s a million different, you know, three, three threes and what the angel number is. But you have to be like, no, that’s the message for me today.
Yes.
So I think that, you know, the moral of the story is that there’s always sort of something bigger that’s trying to guide us, you know, to a quote unquote better life, right? Whether it’s you connecting to people on the other side, whether it’s me channeling healing energy, or me just being out in the universe and having a random conversation at Harris Teeter, connecting with another human being that just lifts me up. I think it’s really important as a human to remember that we’re all connected, but there’s also something bigger and there’s so many more unseen awarenesses and guidances and intuitive wisdom that’s like always knocking, knocking on our head.
Yeah, it’s there and once you know how and where to look, it doesn’t stop.
Right.
But I’ve just never felt so much joy in my life and happiness, and I’ve always been a happy person. I’ve been blessed with a very fortunate life, but it has only gotten better since I started this work, and I’m so grateful that the opportunity has opened up for me, and so I do encourage, if you have any inclination into this–
If any perks happen, any ears have perked in this conversation, take it.
Take it. Find people who do this. And again, I love mentoring people and find a mentor. I think there are plenty of people out there who wanna work with people who are learning.
I love having a teacher and I have two pretty well -known teachers and one of them, I do her social media because I just wanna be on her team. I wanna be a part of her growth. She has a book that’s about to come out. She’s been on like super, super well -known shows and podcasts. And I really think it’s important to be around people that, you know, have sort of more experience than you in this field. It’s really nice to have that like -mind because there’s so many people out there that aren’t really open to this, which is fine. But it’s hard to have these conversations in everyday life. I have friends that I never talk about this stuff with.
Yes.
But I am like emitting it all the time, if that makes sense. Whether it’s drinking a champagne, eating pizza, dancing around my apartment, like it’s still a part of who I am.
Exactly, exactly, yeah. Yeah, you find the more you do this, the more you just randomly meet people who are into the same type of work.
So speaking of, how can someone get a hold of you if they’re interested in a session or if anybody watching just has questions, right? This is something where people just maybe wanna ask questions about how you operate, how this works, if there’s a way that you can tap in.
Yeah, since I am, this is new, me stepping out and being open beyond just friends and family, I do not yet have dedicated social media for this work. However, you can email me in my email address is my first and last name, all is one word, which I think you can see it here on the broadcast, brentasseff@gmail.com. Or you can find my personal account on Instagram, it’s @basseff
So follow him on Instagram, DM him, check it out. All right, anything else you wanna close with?
Just to thank you. Again, this is one of those opportunities that I’m super grateful for. I thank you, I really enjoyed the conversation. And if just one person out there, it’s shifted something in them and changed them, it’s worth it.
I agree. That’s really the point of this conversation. If somebody’s interested, just opening, letting them open up a little bit more, giving them a little bit of direction or guidance, just keep going down that path of curiosity in this field. That’s how to close. If you’re curious, keep going, y ‘all. All right, everybody.
Stay curious.
Thanks for watching. Thanks for being here, Brent. And that’s a wrap on #OuiTalkRaw.
